M Performance Sport Brake Step by Step Coding

shawnsheridan · 07-20-2023, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

Thanks for the quick response, Shawn!

I'm pretty sure that the Edit button was disabled the entire time, even after reading and saving the VO. I will try again later this evening and report back. Thanks for the help!!!

As soon as you name and save FA, Edit becomes available.

CincyBearcats · 07-21-2023, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

As soon as you name and save FA, Edit becomes available.

Edit: See my post below (#74) for my final solution.

You are correct. Of course. Sorry about that.

I feel like I'm really close now, but the FA is not getting written to the car. Sorry that I'm so slow. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

Here are the steps that I just tried:

launch E-Sys (using E-Sys Ultra and E-Sys 22.06)
establish vehicle connection
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
VO-Save
VO-Edit, which automatically opens Editors & Viewers-FA Editor
HO Wort folder is empty
right click HO Wort, New-HO Wort
enter "SPBR" for the new HO Wort, which causes a red X to appear on the FA folder
right click FA folder, calculate FP
after FP finishes calculating, I can see in the "Vehicle Profile" list that the folder "[8] Aftermarket_Fitment" contains "[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE"
I'm not sure what to do from here.
click save icon at the top of the window
Expert Mode-Coding, which displays a dialogue box stating that the file has changed and asking if I want to reload it when the module switches
select Yes in the dialogue box, and the Vehicle Profile within Expert Mode-Coding shows the SPBR entry under Aftermarket_Fitment.
right click VO-FA folder, Activate FA
SVT Actual-Read (VCM)
right click SVT-ECUs-DSC folder, Code
iDrive screen displays two warnings about the brakes while coding happens, but both go away by the end of coding
coding completes with zero errors
Vehicle Profile within Expert Mode-Coding still shows the SPBR entry under Aftermarket_Fitment
VO-Read, and the Aftermarket_Fitment folder disappears from the Vehicle Profile, which I assume means that the edited FA file with SPBR did not actually get written to the car

shawnsheridan · 07-21-2023, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

You are correct. Of course. Sorry about that.

I feel like I'm really close now, but the FA is not getting written to the car. Sorry that I'm so slow. Thanks for your patience and generosity.

Here are the steps that I just tried:

launch E-Sys (using E-Sys Ultra and E-Sys 22.06)
establish vehicle connection
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
VO-Save
VO-Edit, which automatically opens Editors & Viewers-FA Editor
HO Wort folder is empty
right click HO Wort, New-HO Wort
enter "SPBR" for the new HO Wort, which causes a red X to appear on the FA folder
right click FA folder, calculate FP
after FP finishes calculating, I can see in the "Vehicle Profile" list that the folder "[8] Aftermarket_Fitment" contains "[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE"
I'm not sure what to do from here.
click save icon at the top of the window
Expert Mode-Coding, which displays a dialogue box stating that the file has changed and asking if I want to reload it when the module switches
select Yes in the dialogue box, and the Vehicle Profile within Expert Mode-Coding shows the SPBR entry under Aftermarket_Fitment.
right click VO-FA folder, Activate FA
SVT Actual-Read (VCM)
right click SVT-ECUs-DSC folder, Code
iDrive screen displays two warnings about the brakes while coding happens, but both go away by the end of coding
coding completes with zero errors
Vehicle Profile within Expert Mode-Coding still shows the SPBR entry under Aftermarket_Fitment
VO-Read, and the Aftermarket_Fitment folder disappears from the Vehicle Profile, which I assume means that the edited FA file with SPBR did not actually get written to the car

After saving FA, you need to write FA to VCM:

E-Sys - VO Coding Guide.pdf:
https://mega.nz/#!EgIFAZKb!H12P6g_2p...j4BT5UCMxck1bw

CincyBearcats · 07-21-2023, 10:36 AM

Thanks, Shawn. Are you saying that I should or should not perform the optional steps on pages 14 & 15?

shawnsheridan · 07-21-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

Thanks, Shawn. Are you saying that I should or should not perform the optional steps on pages 14 & 15?

It is up to you. You can write modified FA to VCM or not. For Coding, all that is needed is that modified FA be loaded in Coding Module and affected ECU's are VO Coded.

CincyBearcats · 07-21-2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

It is up to you. You can write modified FA to VCM or not. For Coding, all that is needed is that modified FA be loaded in Coding Module and affected ECU's are VO Coded.

I realize that I'm being a PITA, so thanks a ton for your patience.

I'm a bit confused by your note on page 14. Does skipping or not skipping pages 14-15 "avoid the risk of causing dealership programming issues with incompatible FA addition"?

shawnsheridan · 07-21-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

I realize that I'm being a PITA, so thanks a ton for your patience.

I'm a bit confused by your note on page 14. Does skipping or not skipping pages 14-15 "avoid the risk of causing dealership programming issues with incompatible FA addition"?

If modified FA is valid for your build, you can write FA to VCM, and dealer Programming will treat it as a factory option. If FA is not valid for your build, do not write it to VCM.

CincyBearcats · 07-22-2023, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

If modified FA is valid for your build, you can write FA to VCM, and dealer Programming will treat it as a factory option. If FA is not valid for your build, do not write it to VCM.

Shawn, thanks so much for all of your help!!! I finally got it to work successfully, and I really appreciate all of your patience and assistance.

For anyone trying this in the future, here are the steps that finally worked for me:

launch E-Sys (using E-Sys Ultra and E-Sys 22.06)
establish vehicle connection
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
VO-Save
VO-Edit, which automatically opens Editors & Viewers-FA Editor
HO Wort folder is empty
right click HO Wort, New-HO Wort
enter "SPBR"
right click FA folder, calculate FP
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE
click save icon at the top of the window
Expert Mode-VCM
File tab-Vehicle Order-...
select FA file saved above
right click VO-FA folder, calculate FP
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE
VCM Master tab-Write FA FP
Expert Mode-Coding
right click VO-FA folder, Activate FA
SVT Actual-Read (VCM)
right click SVT-ECUs-DSC folder, Code
iDrive screen displays two warnings about the brakes while coding happens, but both go away by the end of coding
coding completes with zero errors
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE

shawnsheridan · 07-22-2023, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

Shawn, thanks so much for all of your help!!! I finally got it to work successfully, and I really appreciate all of your patience and assistance.

Ptown_F31 · 08-03-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by schernov

I had M performance brakes installed recently.
We coded using ISTA Plus.
Car was already on latest integration level so no modules were updated and bunch of modules were coded. In the end - updated options sheet showed M sport Brake.

Bled brakes twice. Initial application is slightly light. Then brakes are good.

Em4n_f30 · 08-23-2023, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

Shawn, thanks so much for all of your help!!! I finally got it to work successfully, and I really appreciate all of your patience and assistance.

For anyone trying this in the future, here are the steps that finally worked for me:

launch E-Sys (using E-Sys Ultra and E-Sys 22.06)
establish vehicle connection
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
VO-Save
VO-Edit, which automatically opens Editors & Viewers-FA Editor
HO Wort folder is empty
right click HO Wort, New-HO Wort
enter "SPBR"
right click FA folder, calculate FP
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE
click save icon at the top of the window
Expert Mode-VCM
File tab-Vehicle Order-...
select FA file saved above
right click VO-FA folder, calculate FP
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE
VCM Master tab-Write FA FP
Expert Mode-Coding
right click VO-FA folder, Activate FA
SVT Actual-Read (VCM)
right click SVT-ECUs-DSC folder, Code
iDrive screen displays two warnings about the brakes while coding happens, but both go away by the end of coding
coding completes with zero errors
Expert Mode-Coding
VO-Read
verify "Vehicle Profile" list contains [8] Aftermarket_Fitment-[1957] SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE

Followed the instructions but I noticed the folder descriptions were not there "Aftermarket_Fitment" and "SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE" only the [8] and [1957]. Is this normal or did I miss something?

david51 · 08-23-2023, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Em4n_f30

Followed the instructions but I noticed the folder descriptions were not there "Aftermarket_Fitment" and "SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE" only the [8] and [1957]. Is this normal or did I miss something?

install a newer pdszdata version

Em4n_f30 · 08-23-2023, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by david51

install a newer pdszdata version

I used v.4.43.10_PSdZData_Lite, do I need something newer or Full?

Thanks

david51 · 08-23-2023, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Em4n_f30

I used v.4.43.10_PSdZData_Lite, do I need something newer or Full?

Thanks

you have the latest version it seems to me that I am trying an earlier version

CincyBearcats · 08-24-2023, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Em4n_f30

Followed the instructions but I noticed the folder descriptions were not there "Aftermarket_Fitment" and "SPBR_18_ZOLL_SPORTBRAKE" only the [8] and [1957]. Is this normal or did I miss something?

Sorry for the problem. Perhaps it is related to the PSdZData version. I don't recall the version that I used, and I don't have that info available right now. I can check later if you would like.

Aside from that problem, did the rest of the instructions work for you? Let me know if there are any errors, and I will edit my post above to include your corrections.

Em4n_f30 · 08-24-2023, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyBearcats

Sorry for the problem. Perhaps it is related to the PSdZData version. I don't recall the version that I used, and I don't have that info available right now. I can check later if you would like.

Aside from that problem, did the rest of the instructions work for you? Let me know if there are any errors, and I will edit my post above to include your corrections.

No, no problem it worked! Big difference in braking, firmer pedal and definitely more bite. The instructions were spot on. Thank you all!

CincyBearcats · 08-25-2023, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Em4n_f30

Big difference in braking, firmer pedal and definitely more bite.

Happy to help!

If you don't mind me asking, how did you bleed the brakes after installing the new calipers?

Ironically, I'm still fighting a VERY soft brake pedal. I did the full ISTA bleed procedure, including the cycling/vibration of the DSC system. However, I did the ISTA procedure with the engine NOT running. I'm going to try the ISTA bleed procedure again with the engine actually running to see if that fixes it. I've already gone through 3 L of brake fluid and ordered 2 L more, so the cost is starting to add up ($25/L). I'm using the Pentosin DOT4 LV (low viscosity) brake fluid.

Em4n_f30 · 08-27-2023, 01:04 PM

I just did the standard bleed/flush procedure using a pressure/power bleeder. I did however do it 3 times since initially I thought that was the cause of soft pedal. Makes me want to try to Ista process to see if I get better brake performance. I used the same brake fluid you did.

F30MC · 05-04-2024, 03:49 PM

Hello guys, i have a question.
I want to remove m sport brakes 340mm front 345mm rear from my f30 and put regular 312mm front and 300mm rear discs with calipers and everything. So i want to know is the any coding needed after that or?
Thanks in advance!

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CincyBearcats Enlisted Member 31 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2017 F31 330i xDrive, M sport Join Date: May 2022 Location: Los Alamos, NM iTrader: (0)	Thanks, Shawn. Are you saying that I should or should not perform the optional steps on pages 14 & 15?
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Em4n_f30 New Member 0 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW 330i Xdrive Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	I just did the standard bleed/flush procedure using a pressure/power bleeder. I did however do it 3 times since initially I thought that was the cause of soft pedal. Makes me want to try to Ista process to see if I get better brake performance. I used the same brake fluid you did.
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05-04-2024, 03:49 PM	#85
F30MC Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW F30 Join Date: May 2024 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	Hello guys, i have a question. I want to remove m sport brakes 340mm front 345mm rear from my f30 and put regular 312mm front and 300mm rear discs with calipers and everything. So i want to know is the any coding needed after that or? Thanks in advance!
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