[TurboWeasel]

Just had a set of 4 BMW homologated * 4ZPs thrown on and my word, what a difference compared to the Bridgestone SOO1s they replaced. Night day difference in steering feel, ride quality and grip. Incredible. Highly recommended.

I got a good deal through my local ATS directly which was £50 cheaper than ASDA and Black Circles, and I also got a £50 M&S voucher.

Still cost me £800 though Premium tyres are just bloody expensive across the board right now.

Anyway, just thought I'd share that as I'm impressed

[Allworth]

How do these compare to Micheline PS, if you ever tried?

Personally getting my Bridgestone T005 RFT changed very soon as thread is down to 3mm on fronts, got a set of R18 Nexen Nfera non-RFT that I got for about £330 (can't remember bought set of 4 new for cash from ebay half a year ago)
Interestingly, yesterday I have seen BMW iX1 with Nexen tires from a factory, as they considered mid level tire, still fitted to BMW's entry level SUVs.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Allworth

How do these compare to Micheline PS, if you ever tried?

Personally getting my Bridgestone T005 RFT changed very soon as thread is down to 3mm on fronts, got a set of R18 Nexen Nfera non-RFT that I got for about £330 (can't remember bought set of 4 new for cash from ebay half a year ago)
Interestingly, yesterday I have seen BMW iX1 with Nexen tires from a factory, as they considered mid level tire, still fitted to BMW's entry level SUVs.

Big fan of the Nexen N'Fera SU1s - used them for years now, never any issues

[un1eash]

Originally Posted by Allworth

How do these compare to Micheline PS, if you ever tried?

Personally getting my Bridgestone T005 RFT changed very soon as thread is down to 3mm on fronts, got a set of R18 Nexen Nfera non-RFT that I got for about £330 (can't remember bought set of 4 new for cash from ebay half a year ago)
Interestingly, yesterday I have seen BMW iX1 with Nexen tires from a factory, as they considered mid level tire, still fitted to BMW's entry level SUVs.

I had a iX1 eDrive 20 last week when my car was getting a recall done. It was fitted with 19" Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3 tyres.

[lethbridge]

Great explanation here about how different * tyres can be from a stock equivalent… Always been lots of debate on this but this video explains why they are not marketing fluff and can transform the ride to what BMW intended (from the perspective of high performance cars) - often at the expense of wet weather grip which is a consideration in the UK!

https://youtu.be/COA630Juf_U?si=XG35adlwPLhyGzwz

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by Allworth

How do these compare to Micheline PS, if you ever tried?

Personally getting my Bridgestone T005 RFT changed very soon as thread is down to 3mm on fronts, got a set of R18 Nexen Nfera non-RFT that I got for about £330 (can't remember bought set of 4 new for cash from ebay half a year ago)
Interestingly, yesterday I have seen BMW iX1 with Nexen tires from a factory, as they considered mid level tire, still fitted to BMW's entry level SUVs.

These are the first Pilot Sports I've run on this car, but they feel the same as the regular PS4, just stiffer because of the run flat sidewalls.

April 24 production date as well, so they feel super compliant and grippy compared to the 8 year old SOO1s that came off.

The difference is the same as going from run flats to non run flats, so tyre age has more of a negative effect that brand and remaining tread depth imo.

[Abzynthe]

Originally Posted by danb1979

Big fan of the Nexen N'Fera SU1s - used them for years now, never any issues

I have those on my E53 and they are fine, but can’t wait until they are spent so I can switch to Michelins.

[danb1979]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

I have those on my E53 and they are fine, but can’t wait until they are spent so I can switch to Michelins.

That's it; they do a good job. They're not comparable to premium tyres; but they do what they need to do well enough

[GOF_430d]

TurboWeasel I would be interested in your feedback on the Michelin Zero Pressure tyres as potential replacements for the Goodyears Assy 2's I have at present, the bulges in which fail the MOT every year, so I have to replace tyres before they are worn out.

[Allworth]

Originally Posted by danb1979

That's it; they do a good job. They're not comparable to premium tyres; but they do what they need to do well enough

I have just fitted these, although it would be wise to compare apples to apples (Bridgestones were RFT), but the change is positive and I like it. It feels like trolley got a swap from steel castors to polyurethane castors!

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

TurboWeasel I would be interested in your feedback on the Michelin Zero Pressure tyres as potential replacements for the Goodyears Assy 2's I have at present, the bulges in which fail the MOT every year, so I have to replace tyres before they are worn out.

If RFT vs RFT, then the Michelin would be a good upgrade, but if the Goodyears aren't RFT, there will be a noticeable stiffening of the ride over bumps. But it's all relative as even old worn out non-RFT tyres are pretty stiff regardless.

The PS4 ZP is for folk who want to stick with RunFlats as they give the car a more original factory feel compared to non-run flats.

If you like RunFlats, then the 4ZP is probably the best option for the F3x platform imo.

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by lethbridge

Great explanation here about how different * tyres can be from a stock equivalent… Always been lots of debate on this but this video explains why they are not marketing fluff and can transform the ride to what BMW intended (from the perspective of high performance cars) - often at the expense of wet weather grip which is a consideration in the UK!

https://youtu.be/COA630Juf_U?si=XG35adlwPLhyGzwz

I was initially sceptical but having tried a few sets of BMW* tyres now, I'm sticking with them.

[GOF_430d]

Originally Posted by TurboWeasel

If RFT vs RFT, then the Michelin would be a good upgrade, but if the Goodyears aren't RFT, there will be a noticeable stiffening of the ride over bumps. But it's all relative as even old worn out non-RFT tyres are pretty stiff regardless.

The PS4 ZP is for folk who want to stick with RunFlats as they give the car a more original factory feel compared to non-run flats.

If you like RunFlats, then the 4ZP is probably the best option for the F3x platform imo.

I've had runflats for the past 12 years, 5 years in my E93 and 7 years in my F33, so I'll look at the 4ZP's next March when my car will invariably fail its MOT on tyre bulges - I had to change two of them this year for this reason.

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

I've had runflats for the past 12 years, 5 years in my E93 and 7 years in my F33, so I'll look at the 4ZP's next March when my car will invariably fail its MOT on tyre bulges - I had to change two of them this year for this reason.

In that case, the 4ZPs will be a good move

[Ennoch]

If these had been available when I was getting the current set of summer RFTs I'd have gone for them because the Pirelli PZ4's really aren't great. Way better than the S001's, but they're no non-RFT PS4S that's for sure. I'm actually thinking of ditching the setup completely and going for a set of 4x rear 403M's and using 245/40/19 all round. I'd probably stick with RFT's even on those with the bigger sidewalls but the downside is that in that size the ZP PS4's are insane money at near £300 per corner! It's nice that there's still one or two on here looking for a decent run flat rather than straight off jumping to go flats.

[TurboWeasel]

Originally Posted by Ennoch

If these had been available when I was getting the current set of summer RFTs I'd have gone for them because the Pirelli PZ4's really aren't great. Way better than the S001's, but they're no non-RFT PS4S that's for sure. I'm actually thinking of ditching the setup completely and going for a set of 4x rear 403M's and using 245/40/19 all round. I'd probably stick with RFT's even on those with the bigger sidewalls but the downside is that in that size the ZP PS4's are insane money at near £300 per corner! It's nice that there's still one or two on here looking for a decent run flat rather than straight off jumping to go flats.

It's good to know there is a GOOD run flat option for those who still want them. The Pirellis and Bridgestones are just flat out nasty when they get some years on them. My steering wheel squirmed all over the place with those unless the tarmac was billiard table flat and smooth. Barely any steering deflection at all with the 4ZPs.

Clearly not all RFTs are created equally Firm ride, sure, but not brittle, crashy and thumpy like shite RTFs.